Taylor Swift has been vocal about the challenges she faced early in her career, particularly regarding how interviewers reduced her to her dating life rather than acknowledging her songwriting talent. In a recent interview with Apple Beats’ Zane Lowe, Swift expressed her frustration with being trivialized and misunderstood by some interviewers who focused more on her personal life than her music.

She recounted instances where interviewers created slideshows of her dating history and made assumptions about her songwriting process, dismissing it as a mere trick rather than recognizing it as a skill and craft. While Swift didn’t directly mention Ellen DeGeneres, many fans believe she was referencing an uncomfortable 2012 interview where DeGeneres repeatedly questioned Swift about her rumored relationship with Zac Efron, despite Swift’s denials.

The resurfacing of this old interview clip has reignited criticism of DeGeneres’ interviewing style, with many accusing her of insensitivity and crossing boundaries. In the interview, DeGeneres persistently pushed Swift to confirm her relationship with Efron, ignoring Swift’s discomfort and reluctance to discuss her personal life. The exchange left Swift visibly upset, with her pleading for the questioning to stop and expressing how it made her feel bad about herself.

The incident with Swift is not an isolated one, as DeGeneres has faced criticism for her handling of other celebrity interviews as well. Past guests, including Michelle Obama, Martha Stewart, Snoop Dogg, and Justin Bieber, have all experienced uncomfortable moments during their appearances on DeGeneres’ show. Critics argue that DeGeneres’ insistence on prying into celebrities’ personal lives and making them uncomfortable for the sake of entertainment is unacceptable behavior for a talk show host.

In recent years, DeGeneres has faced backlash over allegations of fostering a toxic work environment on her show, leading to an internal investigation and the eventual end of her daytime TV program. While some fans sympathize with Swift and other celebrities who have been subjected to uncomfortable interviews, others hope that DeGeneres will learn from the criticism and strive to create a more respectful and empathetic environment for her guests in the future.